• Home
  • Episodes
  • Books for Leaders
  • About Us
    • Our Team
    • Contact Us
  • Our Sponsors
  • Blog
  • Our Newsletter
The Leadership Podcast

The Leadership Podcast

We Study Leaders

September 11, 2019

TLP167: Late Bloomers

http://traffic.libsyn.com/theleadershippodcast/TLP_167.mp3
Play in New Window Download
Rich Karlgaard

Rich Karlgaard is the publisher of Forbes magazine and author of Late Bloomers: The Power of Patience in a World Obsessed with Early Achievement, along with four acclaimed previous books.  Rich talks about his own experience as a late bloomer, why our society is so focused on early achievement, and the misconceptions of early success when it comes to neuroscience. He also discusses the harm of agism, and how those who haven’t bloomed fully can arrive at the intersection of using their native gifts, deepest passions, and abiding purpose. 

The Leadership Podcast is proud to announce a new initiative with thoughtLEADERS to provide very short podcasts called “chalk talks.” They’re “bitesize” hacks on common (but challenging) leadership issues. You can only access the Chalk Talks by subscribing to our mailing list at The Leadership Podcast. 

Key Takeaways 

[3:50] Rich describes his acceptance at Stanford as a fluke. After graduation, he worked as a security guard and dishwasher while his peers were getting great jobs and starting successful companies. He was honest and upfront with his workplace that he wanted to blossom but wasn’t sure why he hadn’t yet, and they gave him a shot to be the Technical Editor and Writer at the Nuclear Power Division. He took the job seriously and became seriously interested in nuclear engineering. 

[7:43] We are impatient for success, and have created a school system that puts pressure to get into elite colleges. The competition also starts at a much earlier age, leaving teens and young adults feeling overwhelmed and possibly depressed. 

[9:18] When our educational system is just a “conveyer belt to early success”, it leaves us with unnecessary baggage and takes the focus off realizing our natural gifts. 

[13:12] Our cognition peaks depends on the ability. While speed and memory may hit their stride in the teens and 20’s, our 30’s open up a range of abilities such as leadership, executive skills, entrepreneurialism and compassion. In the 40’s and beyond, we gain higher functions of wisdom to mentor and coach. 

[15:35] Lean into the person that you are becoming, not the person you were. 

[18:00] The Silicon Valley Myth may have us thinking that innovation only happens in the early to young achievers in their mid 20’s, but there is a larger picture of many successful late bloomers. 

[21:38] It is useful to have a greater faith that convinces you that you are here for a reason. This assures you of self worth and separates you from self doubt. 

[23:44] Great leaders know when persevering is the most courageous thing to do, but also is open to know when quitting and focusing time and energy on something else is the best move. 

[29:01] Rich believes the greatest blooming happens because of a willingness to be brave and discover what we are good at and follow our curiosity. 

[32:17] A lot of successful leaders talk about their time in school, and how we can redefine education for people that learn in different ways. 

[34:07] Three ways Rich suggests we can take the pressure off early achievement: 

  1. Start kids later in traditional school work, and focus more on fun and healthy play before the age of 7. 
  2. Advocate for skill trade programs. They teach tangible skills, typically pay well and can even be a very attractive background for someone pursuing higher education. 
  3. Gap years can help encourage travel and learning about new environments. 
  4. Mandatory military or civilian service gives a sense of purpose, belonging, and duty to something bigger than ourselves. 

[37:38] Agism is a tragic loss of human talent, however responsibility goes both ways. It is up to organizations to provide more opportunities, including mentorship and coaching, and up to the applicants to network and see where they can add value. 

[47:16] Rich’s challenge: move forward with self doubt. Find peer groups who you can talk about your plans, dreams and worries. 

Quotable Quotes 

  • “I literally felt my brain developing and opening up at age 26 and 27.” 
  • “We need to learn how to quit when we can reallocate our time, treasure and purpose towards something better.” 
  • “Lean into the person that you are becoming, not the person you were.” 

Additional Links

  • Lee Kuan Yew
  • Stanford
  • Alden Mills
  • The Electric Power Research Institute
  • Dan Pink
  • The Silicon Valley Suicides
  • MIT, MGH Research Says Not All Cognitive Abilities Decline As You Age
  • Dave Duffield
  • Tom Siegel
  • C3
  • Fred Luddy
  • VMware
  • Reid Hoffman
  • Intel
Rich Karlgaard

These are the books mentioned in Rich’s episode.

Late Bloomers: The Power of Patience in a World Obsessed with Early Achievement

Buy This Book Online
Buy from Amazon
Late Bloomers: The Power of Patience in a World Obsessed with Early Achievement
Buy now!
Late Bloomers: The Power of Patience in a World Obsessed with Early Achievement

Mindset: The New Psychology of Success

Buy This Book Online
Buy from Amazon
Mindset: The New Psychology of Success
Buy now!
Mindset: The New Psychology of Success

Filed Under: Podcast

TLP166: Feelings Aren’t Facts
TLP168: Innovation Looks Ugly At First

Related Posts

  • TLP436: 13 Strategies to Improve Self-awareness with Kevin Kruse
  • TLP063: Rudy’s Perspective On Supporters and Detractors
  • TLP453: Delegation Isn’t About Losing Control with Dr. Steven Stein
  • TLP192: Dan Pink (Part I/III): Don’t rely on willpower and fortitude – change the architecture
  • TLP206: Prisoners of Our Own Perspective
iTunes
Spotify
Audible
SoundCloud
iHeartRADIO

Instagram Feed

The Leadership Podcast

westudyleaders

#leadership #leadershiptraining #leader #westudyleaders

Adversity is inevitable, but resilience helps us g Adversity is inevitable, but resilience helps us grow stronger. Learn the strategies leaders use to thrive in complexity. 💪 Tune in! https://bit.ly/TLP-446?utm_campaign=coschedule&utm_source=instagram&utm_medium=westudyleaders#LeadershipPodcast #ResilientLeadership #GrowthMindset #StressManagement
Belonging starts with leadership, but the glue per Belonging starts with leadership, but the glue person is the true force behind it. These informal leaders create connection and unity, making teams thrive. How can we recognize and learn from their quiet impact? https://bit.ly/TLP-445?utm_campaign=coschedule&utm_source=instagram&utm_medium=westudyleaders#Leadership #GluePerson #Teamwork #Inspiration #Leadership
Feeling stuck in your career? Helen Hanison shares Feeling stuck in your career? Helen Hanison shares a proven roadmap to help you align your work with your values and move forward with confidence. Don't miss this insightful episode! https://bit.ly/TLP-443?utm_campaign=coschedule&utm_source=instagram&utm_medium=westudyleaders#LeadershipPodcast #Unstuck
Strong teams are built on shared resilience. 💼 Strong teams are built on shared resilience. 💼 Discover how leaders can create systems that support both individual and collective growth. 🎧 Listen now! https://bit.ly/TLP-446?utm_campaign=coschedule&utm_source=instagram&utm_medium=westudyleaders#LeadershipTips #TeamResilience #StressManagement
Too many meetings and not enough real conversation Too many meetings and not enough real conversations? Dr. Hope Zoeller shares why leaders should prioritize one-on-one check-ins to build strong teams. https://bit.ly/TLP-454?utm_campaign=coschedule&utm_source=instagram&utm_medium=westudyleaders#Leadership #EmployeeEngagement #WorkplaceCulture #FutureOfWork #IntentionalLeadership
Micromanaging remote workers leads to frustration Micromanaging remote workers leads to frustration and disengagement. Wayne Turmel explains why leaders should focus on outcomes, not activity, and how this shift builds trust and boosts productivity. Learn how to let go of micromanagement and foster real collaboration. https://bit.ly/TLP-444?utm_campaign=coschedule&utm_source=instagram&utm_medium=westudyleaders#LeadershipTips #RemoteWork #TeamCulture
Dr. Debra Clary, author of The Curiosity Curve, sh Dr. Debra Clary, author of The Curiosity Curve, shares her journey from stand-up comic to Fortune 50 executive, highlighting how curiosity drives leadership success, innovation, and personal growth. Tune in to hear her insights on storytelling, psychological safety, and embracing feedback for stronger teams. 🎧 https://bit.ly/TLP-447?utm_campaign=coschedule&utm_source=instagram&utm_medium=westudyleaders#Leadership #Curiosity #Podcast #GrowthMindset #Inspiration #TheLeadershipPodcast #PersonalDevelopment
Company culture doesn't form overnight—it's shap Company culture doesn't form overnight—it's shaped by leadership behaviors, values, and attitudes passed down over time. When leaders embrace curiosity, openness, and innovation, it sets the tone for the entire organization, inspiring teams to seek new ideas and continuously improve. Tune in to discover how to foster a culture of growth and adaptability in your organization. 🎧 https://bit.ly/TLP-447?utm_campaign=coschedule&utm_source=instagram&utm_medium=westudyleaders#Leadership #CompanyCulture #CuriosityDrivenLeadership #WorkplaceInnovation #GrowthMindset #LeadershipDevelopment #TheLeadershipPodcast #TeamSuccess
Vulnerability isn't just about being open; it's a Vulnerability isn't just about being open; it's a gateway to connection and growth. Stuart Grazier explains how embracing vulnerability has transformed his life and relationships. Don't miss this empowering conversation that reveals why openness is key to authentic leadership. https://bit.ly/TLP-449?utm_campaign=coschedule&utm_source=instagram&utm_medium=westudyleaders#VulnerabilityIsStrength #KineticMan #Leadership
Curiosity isn't just a trait—it's a switch. If i Curiosity isn't just a trait—it's a switch. If it's off, you're stuck. If it's on, every day feels like progress. Jamie Beaton shares how top leaders and learners stay engaged, relevant, and continuously growing. If you feel stuck, this episode is for you! Listen now: https://bit.ly/TLP-456?utm_campaign=coschedule&utm_source=instagram&utm_medium=westudyleaders#CuriositySwitch #Leadership #GrowthMindset #StayRelevant #TopTalent #Entrepreneurship
TLP453: Delegation Isn’t About Losing Control wi TLP453: Delegation Isn’t About Losing Control with Dr. Steven Stein Our latest episode with Dr. Steven Stein https://bit.ly/TLP-453?utm_campaign=coschedule&utm_source=instagram&utm_medium=westudyleaders&utm_content=TLP453%3A%20Delegation%20Isn%27t%20About%20Losing%20Control%20with%20Dr.%20Steven%20Stein #leadership #EmotionalIntelligence #ExecutiveCoaching #LeadershipDevelopment #CorporateCulture #BusinessStrategy #Resilience #SelfAwareness #TeamDevelopment #WorkplaceCulture #DecisionMaking #RemoteWork #HighPerformance #Psychology #GrowthMindset
Leadership is about more than just skills—it's a Leadership is about more than just skills—it's about mindset. Sarah Dalton, co-author of The Five Talents that Really Matter, shares how to spot rare leadership qualities & avoid hiring biases.🎧 Listen now: https://bit.ly/TLP-448?utm_campaign=coschedule&utm_source=instagram&utm_medium=westudyleaders#LeadershipDevelopment #TalentOptimization #TheFiveTalents #Podcast
Talent isn't just about resumes. True leadership p Talent isn't just about resumes. True leadership potential comes from stable thinking patterns & decision-making skills. Standard interviews miss this.Discover better ways to assess leadership potential! 🎧 https://bit.ly/TLP-448?utm_campaign=coschedule&utm_source=instagram&utm_medium=westudyleaders#TalentAssessment #LeadershipDevelopment #HiringBestPractices
Career change doesn't have to be risky or overwhel Career change doesn't have to be risky or overwhelming. Helen Hanison explains how her step-by-step approach can help you redesign your career with confidence. Start small, think big! 🔊 https://bit.ly/TLP-443?utm_campaign=coschedule&utm_source=instagram&utm_medium=westudyleaders#CareerTransformation
Discover the journey of Stuart Grazier, a retired Discover the journey of Stuart Grazier, a retired Navy pilot turned entrepreneur. Learn how he redefined success, built meaningful communities, and embraced vulnerability to grow as a leader. Listen now! https://bit.ly/TLP-449?utm_campaign=coschedule&utm_source=instagram&utm_medium=westudyleaders#Leadership #KineticMan #CommunityMatters
Feeling stuck? Remember: You are never powerless. Feeling stuck? Remember: You are never powerless. No matter the challenge, you control your mindset and response. Hear more from Elizabeth Lotardo in this must-listen episode. 🎧 https://bit.ly/TLP-451?utm_campaign=coschedule&utm_source=instagram&utm_medium=westudyleaders#Leadership #MindsetMatters #PersonalGrowth #CareerSuccess
Are you persevering at the cost of your values? He Are you persevering at the cost of your values? Helen Hanison shares how breaking free from this trap can lead to a more fulfilling career. Discover her story and actionable advice in this episode! https://bit.ly/TLP-443?utm_campaign=coschedule&utm_source=instagram&utm_medium=westudyleaders#Unstuck #PurposefulWork
"The best leaders don't have all the answers—the "The best leaders don't have all the answers—they create the space for their team to find them." Leadership isn't about control. It's about trust, collaboration, and growth. Are you creating that space?🔗 Listen now! https://bit.ly/TLP-450?utm_campaign=coschedule&utm_source=instagram&utm_medium=westudyleaders#Leadership #GrowthMindset #Teamwork #Success #Empowermen
Discover the secret to resilient leadership with D Discover the secret to resilient leadership with Dr. Marie Helene Peltier. 🧠 Learn how to craft a strategic resilience plan, balance stress, and lead with strength in every challenge. 🎧 Tune in to thrive in 2025! https://bit.ly/TLP-446?utm_campaign=coschedule&utm_source=instagram&utm_medium=westudyleaders#LeadershipPodcast #Resilience #MentalHealthAwareness #PersonalGrowth
Growth starts with self-awareness and hard truths. Growth starts with self-awareness and hard truths. In this episode, Stuart Grazier shares how facing challenges head-on can lead to profound clarity and purpose. Tune in to learn how to embrace discomfort for meaningful transformation. https://bit.ly/TLP-449?utm_campaign=coschedule&utm_source=instagram&utm_medium=westudyleaders#Clarity #PersonalGrowth #KineticMan
Load More... Follow on Instagram

Recent Posts

  • TLP460: Lessons on Leadership from Native American Elders with Susan Kelsey
  • TLP459: Small, Consistent Actions Over Time with Adam Contos
  • TLP458: How to Build a Business that’s Smarter than You with Pippa Begg
  • TLP457: The Power of Positive Sleep with Giles Watkins
  • TLP456: The Curiosity Switch: How Leaders Stay Ahead with Jamie Beaton

Recent Comments

  • Anonymous on TLP445: Glue Guys: Identifying Hidden Leaders with Jim and Jan
  • Anonymous on TLP428: What Makes A Good Leadership Book with Jim and Jan
  • Anonymous on TLP428: What Makes A Good Leadership Book with Jim and Jan
  • Anonymous on TLP428: What Makes A Good Leadership Book with Jim and Jan
  • Anonymous on TLP415: Saying “NO” Reduces Friction

Tags

adaptability assumptions athletics authenticity business change coaching communication corporate crucible culture Curiosity education emotional intelligence entrepreneur financial healthcare hiring history humor influence innovation interview Jim & Jan leader leadership military neuroscience Patagonia philosophy practitioner productivity relationships resilience sales science speaker sports stories team development teamwork thought leader trust values veterans

Copyright © 2025 Rafti Advisors, LLC & Self-Reliant Leadership, LLC - All Rights Reserved. | Privacy Policy