• Home
  • Episodes
  • Books for Leaders
  • About Us
    • Our Team
    • Contact Us
  • Our Sponsors
  • Blog
  • Our Newsletter
The Leadership Podcast

The Leadership Podcast

We Study Leaders

July 4, 2018

TLP105: Amy McGrath’s 90th Mission

http://traffic.libsyn.com/theleadershippodcast/TLP_105.mp3
Play in New Window Download

First Female Marine to Fly an F-18 in Combat – Now a Candidate for Congress

Amy McGrath is on a mission to bring back servant leadership, civic responsibility and open discourse to Capitol Hill. As both a graduate and former teacher at the United States Naval Academy, Amy has committed herself to serve the country as an ethical, truthful and tactical leader. She was the first female Marine to fly in an F-18 Hornet on a combat mission.

Now running for Congress in Kentucky, Amy speaks with Jim and Jan about the standards she would like to bring back to Congress, why facts and the truth matter, what motivates her as a leader, and how she plans to bring her military experience into the political realm to unify.

Key Takeaways

[1:43] Amy attended the Naval Academy, and later became a Congressional Fellow, serving as Defense and Foreign Affairs Policy Advisor, and then a liason to the State Dept.

[3:10] Amy explains why her call sign is Krusty the Klown. In the Marine Corps, callsigns are not supposed to be flattering, and her hair would stick out the sides of her cover.

[4:21] Right now, Amy is focused on her three small children and running for Congress, but does plan on flying again.

[6:02] Amy feels that we have leaders in both parties who have told people what they want to hear, who they should point the finger at, and suggest that there is a quick fix. That was one of Amy’s main interests in running her campaign, to make sure she was honest and courageous at every step along the way, even if the issues were complex, and her platform suggested that we have to work hard and together to solve the problems.

[8:36] One of the things Amy respects about recent guest General Stanley McChrystal is his idea of national service and the government helping with community to unify our country and to help with inequality.

[10:42] A recent speech by a politician brings up the topic of the polarizing speech vs. the new wave of greater discourse, and constituents having the ability to talk directly with their leaders to share their current concerns and desires for change. When Amy sits with people in her Georgetown community, she finds that despite all the differences in political beliefs and affiliations, they have a common thread of concern of our country and the hope we can trust a leader is truly listening, and not just spreading propaganda for the sake of what people want to hear.

[13:53] Amy serves the country first before any political representation. She calls running for Congress her 90th mission, because she flew 89 missions, both for Iraq and Afghanistan.

[15:40] Amy has a “Leaders Eat Last” mentality, and feels though it is time for those in power to look out for the well being of the people before themselves.

[16:45] So many people in America are just getting by, are just struggling to make ends meet while working 2-3 jobs. The best way Amy can lead by example is to hold herself to high standards, and then provide avenues for others to follow suit.

[19:00] In the military, you serve the American people and the federal government. Opportunities are not handed to you.

[19:46] While working with a representative, Amy noticed that although the Representative herself was a true public servant, the institution set in place called for band aid fixes and reactionary responses.

[20:23] True leaders don’t solve problems for the sake of credit or symbolic gestures. They look at the plan from afar, study it, and strategize while considering all angles, no matter how complex the issue. Once in motion, it’s important to be flexible and continue studying the plan to see if there may be ways to adapt even better.

[25:04] Before we make any decision or plans, we must know the truth, and the actual facts.

[27:31] Amy’s assignment to her class while teaching at the Naval Academy exposed that many members of Congress and Senators had propaganda and non truths on their website. The students at the Naval Academy make up some of the best minds in the world, so there is a concern on how politics has replaced truth and facts for popularity.

[36:45] It takes a group to make a difference and turn the tide against corruption. This starts with taking responsibility

[39:57] Amy’s husband is a Republican, and she appreciates that representing the idealist America where both sides can have an intelligent discourse with compromise.

[42:38] Good leaders come from all walks of life.

[43:55] The first order of business Amy would tackle in her term would be health care and assembling a group of people that are taking action to make a difference.

How to contact Amy:

Quotable Quotes

  • Let’s replace symbolic gestures with actually doing something.
  • In every mission we didn’t just fly. We studied, we prepared, we had a plan.
  • I’m an idealist, and that’s what makes me American.
  • We have to have leaders that have the courage to be honest with people.
  • People are ready for honesty.
  • People are looking for people who don’t always have talking points, but want to listen.
  • Our country badly needs better leaders.
  • Leaders must be servants first.
  • Actions are more important than words.
  • Leaders eat last and take responsibility.
  • The military is about performance and working for the American people.
  • We need people to work hard, but have to provide avenues for them.
  • True leaders are made up of substance. “It’s not the plan that matters in battle, it’s the planning.” – Dwight Eisenhower
  • If it wasn’t for Progressives, I wouldn’t have had a job in the Marine Corps.
  • You must surround yourself with good people. If there is enough of us, we can make a difference.

Mentioned

TLP101: General Stanley McChrystal

Leaders Eat Last by Simon Sinek

Representative Susan Davis

US Naval Academy

The Lowest Form Of Leadership

United States Marine Corps

Bio

When Amy McGrath was 12 years old, she fell in love with military fighter jets. Wondering why there were no women flying, Amy discovered there was a federal law in the U.S. prohibiting women from serving in combat roles. Amy began writing letters to members of Congress advocating for change to remove the restriction on women and wrote every member of the House and Senate Armed Services Committees. During her senior year of high school, the combat exclusion law was lifted. Amy attended the United States Naval Academy and graduated in 1997 with a B.S. in Political Science.

She was commissioned as a Second Lieutenant in the U.S. Marine Corps, where she went on to complete flight school first as a Weapons Systems Officer, and later as a pilot in the F/A-18 Hornet. She completed a tour flying missions in Afghanistan in 2002, becoming the first female Marine to fly in an F-18 on a combat mission, and a second combat tour flying in Iraq in 2003. In 2009, Amy married U.S. Navy Lieutenant Commander Erik Henderson and both were later deployed to Afghanistan. They now have three children. In 2011, Amy was assigned to Washington D.C. as a Marine Corps Congressional Fellow, serving as defense and foreign affairs policy advisor to Rep. Susan

Davis of San Diego. She then served in the Pentagon as the Marine Corps’ liaison to the State Department. Having reached the rank of Lieutenant Colonel, Amy’s last assignment was teaching at the U.S. Naval Academy. Amy retired from the Marine Corps on June 1, 2017 after 20 years.

 

Filed Under: Podcast Tagged With: culture, interview, leader, leadership, military, politics, teamwork, veterans

TLP104: Navigating Crucial & Emotional Conver...
TLP106: Strengthen Trust in Less than a Day

Related Posts

  • TLP206: Prisoners of Our Own Perspective
  • TLP023: Unlocking the True Potential of Your Team
  • TLP059: Do Titles Matter? Lessons from a 20-year Microsoft Executive
  • TLP431: How to Negotiate Anything and Live Your Best Life with Kwame Christian
  • TLP324: A Crucible to Strengthen Your Purpose

Trackbacks

  1. TLP171: Win Or Learn – Lessons from the first mom to be a Thunderbird pilot – The Leadership Podcast says:
    October 9, 2019 at 6:27 am

    […] Ep #105: Amy McGrath’s 90th Mission […]

iTunes
Spotify
Audible
SoundCloud
iHeartRADIO

Instagram Feed

westudyleaders

#leadership #leadershiptraining #leader #westudyleaders

This hit different. We're not having fact debates This hit different. We're not having fact debates - we're having harm debates. Everyone's protecting what they see as threatened. Once you get that, everything changes.🎧 Full episode drops truth bombs - https://bit.ly/TLP-471?utm_campaign=coschedule&utm_source=instagram&utm_medium=westudyleaders // https://bit.ly/TLP-YT-471?utm_campaign=coschedule&utm_source=instagram&utm_medium=westudyleaders#Leadership #Communication #Facts #Morality #Psychology #Podcast
Barry Jesinoski's take on remote work might surpri Barry Jesinoski's take on remote work might surprise you, especially his reasoning behind keeping his team mostly in-person. He runs Disabled American Veterans (DAV) headquarters in Kentucky where 180 employees work together daily.Like Barry, sometimes the unpopular stance might be the right one for your organization.#Leadership #RemoteWork #DAV #WorkplaceCulture #VeteranLeadership #TeamBuilding
Our latest guest Nicola Ilic breaks down why fear- Our latest guest Nicola Ilic breaks down why fear-based leadership is killing innovation and how democratic leadership actually works in practice. This one's a game changer for anyone tired of the "do more, better, faster" hamster wheel.Listen to the full episode at https://bit.ly/TLP-475?utm_campaign=coschedule&utm_source=instagram&utm_medium=westudyleadersWatch the full episode here https://bit.ly/TLP-YT-475?utm_campaign=coschedule&utm_source=instagram&utm_medium=westudyleaders#leadership #democraticleadership #uncertainty #innovation #leadership
Sometimes the scariest thing isn't the unknown, it Sometimes the scariest thing isn't the unknown, it's staying stuck in what we already know. Dr. Margaret Heffernan's latest book "Embracing Uncertainty" hits differently when you realize we're all just making it up as we go anyway.Full episode at https://bit.ly/TLP-472?utm_campaign=coschedule&utm_source=instagram&utm_medium=westudyleadersWatch the full episode here https://bit.ly/TLP-YT-472?utm_campaign=coschedule&utm_source=instagram&utm_medium=westudyleaders#EmbraceUncertainty #Leadership #Innovation #Podcast #MargaretHeffernan #Growth
Three-star General Ray Palumbo breaks down somethi Three-star General Ray Palumbo breaks down something most people never think about - the real difference between being a leader and being a general. The distinction he makes about mission focus will hit you differently when you realize what military leaders actually sacrifice. Listen here - https://bit.ly/TLP-469?utm_campaign=coschedule&utm_source=instagram&utm_medium=westudyleadersWatch the full episode here - https://bit.ly/TLP-YT-469?utm_campaign=coschedule&utm_source=instagram&utm_medium=westudyleaders#Leadership #Military #Generalship #ThreeStarGeneral #MissionFirst #Constitution #Sacrifice #CorporateLeadership
Dr. Margaret Heffernan had an interview with The B Dr. Margaret Heffernan had an interview with The Bank of England's chief economist and made big decisions by... walking around London with no plan? Sometimes the best leadership strategy is the one that looks completely pointless to efficiency experts. Dr. Heffernan breaks down why wandering might be your secret weapon.Full episode: https://bit.ly/TLP-472?utm_campaign=coschedule&utm_source=instagram&utm_medium=westudyleadersWatch the full episode here https://bit.ly/TLP-YT-472?utm_campaign=coschedule&utm_source=instagram&utm_medium=westudyleaders#Leadership #DecisionMaking #Intuition #Banking #Strategy #WalkAndThink
Nicola Ilic is a former activist who helped overth Nicola Ilic is a former activist who helped overthrow a dictator just explained why your top-down company structure is losing to competitors. Democratic countries dominate economically because they harness everyone's ideas, not just the CEO's. Wild how the same principles apply to boardrooms.Full episode at https://bit.ly/TLP-475?utm_campaign=coschedule&utm_source=instagram&utm_medium=westudyleadersWatch the full episode here https://bit.ly/TLP-YT-475?utm_campaign=coschedule&utm_source=instagram&utm_medium=westudyleaders#democraticleadership #business #competition #ideas #innovation #leadership
TLP473: Leading Those Who've Served with Barry Jes TLP473: Leading Those Who've Served with Barry Jesinoski Our latest episode with Barry Jesinoski https://bit.ly/TLP-473?utm_campaign=coschedule&utm_source=instagram&utm_medium=westudyleaders&utm_content=TLP473%3A%20Leading%20Those%20Who%27ve%20Served%20with%20Barry%20Jesinoski #leadership #Veterans #DAV #DisabledAmericanVeterans #Military #Marines #Integrity #Communication #VeteranBenefits #Entrepreneurship #PatriotBootCamp #VeteranEmployment #ServiceDisabledVeterans #WorkplaceCulture #RemoteWork #Collaboration #Mentorship #Advocacy #VeteranSupport #NonProfit #CharityWork #VeteranServices #Leadership473 #TheLeadershipPodcast #RaftyAdvisors #SelfReliantLeadership #VeteranAdvocacy #VeteranCare #MilitaryService #VeteranEntrepreneurship
Most people completely misunderstand what "service Most people completely misunderstand what "service disabled veteran" actually means. Barry Jesinoski breaks down the spectrum from a simple scar to needing full-time care, and why many veterans with this designation don't consider themselves disabled at all. The resilience behind these labels might surprise you.Listen to the full conversation https://bit.ly/TLP-473?utm_campaign=coschedule&utm_source=instagram&utm_medium=westudyleadersWatch the full episode here https://bit.ly/TLP-YT-473?utm_campaign=coschedule&utm_source=instagram&utm_medium=westudyleaders#ServiceDisabledVeteran #VeteranEmployment #DisabledVeterans #DAV #VeteranSupport #HiringVeterans
This changes everything about how you think about This changes everything about how you think about influence. While people resist speeches with arms folded, they let music straight into their hearts and minds without resistance.Listen to the full conversation with Jed Brewer https://bit.ly/TLP-476?utm_campaign=coschedule&utm_source=instagram&utm_medium=westudyleadersWatch the full episode here - https://bit.ly/TLP-YT-476?utm_campaign=coschedule&utm_source=instagram&utm_medium=westudyleaders#influence #leadership #communication #music #psychology #theleadershippodcast
When you realize most companies are structured lik When you realize most companies are structured like the military but trying to compete like tech startups. Maybe the intern has the answer you've been looking for?Listen to episode 475 of The Leadership Podcast with Nicola Ilic https://bit.ly/TLP-475?utm_campaign=coschedule&utm_source=instagram&utm_medium=westudyleadersWatch the full episode here https://bit.ly/TLP-YT-475?utm_campaign=coschedule&utm_source=instagram&utm_medium=westudyleaders#leadership #uncertainty #collaboration #innovation #democraticleadership
Sometimes the detours lead to your greatest discov Sometimes the detours lead to your greatest discoveries. Jed Brewer went from engineering student to prison chaplain to using Grammy-winning musicians to save lives through strategic messaging.Listen to the full conversation at https://bit.ly/TLP-476?utm_campaign=coschedule&utm_source=instagram&utm_medium=westudyleadersWatch the full episode here - https://bit.ly/TLP-YT-476?utm_campaign=coschedule&utm_source=instagram&utm_medium=westudyleaders#leadership #unexpected #careerjourney #theleadershippodcast
Makes you think twice about that doom scroll, does Makes you think twice about that doom scroll, doesn't it? Our brains are basically ancient alarm systems getting hijacked by modern tech. No wonder we're all so on edge.🎧 Listen to the full convo - https://bit.ly/TLP-471?utm_campaign=coschedule&utm_source=instagram&utm_medium=westudyleaders // https://bit.ly/TLP-YT-471?utm_campaign=coschedule&utm_source=instagram&utm_medium=westudyleaders#SocialMedia #Psychology #Leadership #MentalHealth #Podcast #Awareness
Leadership is an inside job; it's about the work n Leadership is an inside job; it's about the work no one sees. Until you can regulate your emotions and listen to your intuition, no strategy will ever make you an exceptional leader. Listen to Sara Sabin's full insights https://bit.ly/TLP-477?utm_campaign=coschedule&utm_source=instagram&utm_medium=westudyleadersWatch the full conversation https://bit.ly/TLP-YT-477?utm_campaign=coschedule&utm_source=instagram&utm_medium=westudyleaders#leadership #innerwork #communication #emotionalmastery #podcast
Disabled American Veterans (DAV) spends only 1% of Disabled American Veterans (DAV) spends only 1% of their budget on lobbying but gets massive results. Barry Jesinoski's secret? Stay laser-focused on veterans, not politics. When you call out lawmakers, it's not about their party affiliation, it's about whether they're supporting those who served. Leaders take note: mission over politics wins every time.Listen to the full conversation https://bit.ly/TLP-473?utm_campaign=coschedule&utm_source=instagram&utm_medium=westudyleadersWatch the full episode here https://bit.ly/TLP-YT-473?utm_campaign=coschedule&utm_source=instagram&utm_medium=westudyleaders#Leadership #Politics #DAV #VeteranAdvocacy #Lobbying #ApoliticalLeadership #NonProfit
Nicola Ilic explains why creating fear is the olde Nicola Ilic explains why creating fear is the oldest leadership trick in the book, and why it works so well. Once you see this pattern, you can't unsee it everywhere from politics to your own workplace.Full episode on https://bit.ly/TLP-475?utm_campaign=coschedule&utm_source=instagram&utm_medium=westudyleadersWatch the full episode here https://bit.ly/TLP-YT-475?utm_campaign=coschedule&utm_source=instagram&utm_medium=westudyleaders#leadership #psychology #democraticleadership #workplace #fear
At 23, Barry Jesinoski got promoted over two peopl At 23, Barry Jesinoski got promoted over two people with 20+ years experience each. He was terrified. His secret? He told them the truth about what he didn't know and what he needed from them. Three decades later, every new Disabled American Veterans (DAV) employee hears these same two priorities from him personally.Listen to the full conversation https://bit.ly/TLP-473?utm_campaign=coschedule&utm_source=instagram&utm_medium=westudyleadersWatch the full episode here https://bit.ly/TLP-YT-473?utm_campaign=coschedule&utm_source=instagram&utm_medium=westudyleaders#Leadership #Integrity #Communication #VeteranLeadership #DAV #WorkplaceCulture
ESPN broadcaster Anne Marie Anderson was sobbing o ESPN broadcaster Anne Marie Anderson was sobbing outside the stadium before her first live TV appearance. Her solution? Take your worst fears to their most ridiculous conclusion. Sometimes you need to catastrophize to realize how unlikely your nightmare scenario actually is.Full episode at https://bit.ly/TLP-474?utm_campaign=coschedule&utm_source=instagram&utm_medium=westudyleadersWatch the full episode here https://bit.ly/TLP-YT-474?utm_campaign=coschedule&utm_source=instagram&utm_medium=westudyleaders#Leadership #ESPN #Audacity #CareerChange #SportsMedia #Motivation #PodcastClips
Most leaders wait until the wheels have completely Most leaders wait until the wheels have completely fallen off before they say something. Mark Morgenfruh says if you actually have a real relationship with your people, you'd see it at waypoint two, not waypoint six. This is the conversation about compassion and performance that nobody wants to have but every leader needs. Full episode here - https://bit.ly/TLP-YT-502?utm_campaign=coschedule&utm_source=instagram&utm_medium=westudyleaders#leadership #leadershipdevelopment #employeeperformance #compassionateleadership #theleadershippodcast #neverfireanyone #leadershippodcast
Ever wonder why some people keep taking risks whil Ever wonder why some people keep taking risks while others play it safe? Anne Marie Anderson just dropped some truth that hit differently. She tells a story about sobbing outside a stadium before her first ESPN broadcast, convinced she'd "die destitute and alone" if she messed it up. But she didn't die, didn't go broke, and ended up building a 36-year career in sports TV.Sometimes you gotta catastrophize your fears to realize how ridiculous they actually are.Listen to the full episode at https://bit.ly/TLP-474?utm_campaign=coschedule&utm_source=instagram&utm_medium=westudyleadersWatch the full episode here https://bit.ly/TLP-YT-474?utm_campaign=coschedule&utm_source=instagram&utm_medium=westudyleaders#Leadership #Audacity #CareerChange #ESPN #SportsMedia #PodcastLife #LeadershipDevelopment
Follow on Instagram

Recent Posts

  • TLP502: Never Fire Anyone with Mark Morgenfruh
  • TLP501: Failure as Fuel: When to push through and when to quit
  • TLP500: The Leadership Myths We Keep Getting Wrong with Admiral Bill McRaven
  • TLP499: You’re Charging for the Wrong Thing with Joe Pine
  • TLP498: Why Grit Isn’t Enough: Rethinking Resilience in Leadership

Recent Comments

  • TLP171: Win Or Learn – Lessons from the first mom to be a Thunderbird pilot – The Leadership Podcast on TLP501: Failure as Fuel: When to push through and when to quit
  • TLP171: Win Or Learn – Lessons from the first mom to be a Thunderbird pilot – The Leadership Podcast on TLP500: The Leadership Myths We Keep Getting Wrong with Admiral Bill McRaven
  • TLP171: Win Or Learn – Lessons from the first mom to be a Thunderbird pilot – The Leadership Podcast on TLP500: The Leadership Myths We Keep Getting Wrong with Admiral Bill McRaven
  • TLP171: Win Or Learn – Lessons from the first mom to be a Thunderbird pilot – The Leadership Podcast on TLP500: The Leadership Myths We Keep Getting Wrong with Admiral Bill McRaven
  • TLP171: Win Or Learn – Lessons from the first mom to be a Thunderbird pilot – The Leadership Podcast on TLP498: Why Grit Isn’t Enough: Rethinking Resilience in Leadership

Tags

adaptability assumptions athletics business change coaching communication corporate crucible culture Curiosity decision making education emotional intelligence entrepreneur financial history humor innovation interview Jan Rutherford Jim & Jan Jim Vaselopulos leader leadership leadership development Leadership Podcast military neuroscience Patagonia Personal Growth philosophy practitioner productivity relationships resilience sales speaker sports stories team development teamwork thought leader trust veterans

Copyright © 2026 Rafti Advisors, LLC & Self-Reliant Leadership, LLC - All Rights Reserved. | Privacy Policy