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TLP499: You’re Charging for the Wrong Thing with Joe Pine

February 18, 2026

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Joe Pine is an internationally recognized author, speaker, and advisor, best known for The Experience Economy and his latest work, The Transformation Economy. In this episode, Joe explains why the market is finally ready—25 years later—for the shift to the transformation economy. He walks through the evolution of economic value, from commodities to goods, services,…

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This applies to families. It applies to teams. Mo This applies to families. It applies to teams.Most leaders and parents focus on outcomes. Lee Benson focuses on the environment.Get the environment right, and value creation follows, at home and at work.Learn how Lee builds that environment. #leadership #valuecreation #leebenson #familyleadership #executivecoaching #teamculture #podcast #theleadershippodcast
Experience is invaluable. Until it convinces you t Experience is invaluable. Until it convinces you that you don't need to question yourself.David Robson calls this the curse of expertise. The more experience we accumulate, the easier it can become to trust our instincts without looking for evidence that might prove us wrong.His advice is simple: listen to your intuition, but interrogate it like any other piece of data.Ask yourself: What would I need to know to disprove what I believe to be true?That question may be one of the most useful habits an experienced leader can develop.#leadership #leadershipdevelopment #decisionmaking #cognitivebias #executiveleadership #selfawareness #davidrobson #leadershippodcast
Being good at something can make you worse at maki Being good at something can make you worse at making decisions.The more experience and expertise we gain, the easier it can become to trust our judgment without questioning it.David Robson calls this the "curse of expertise."He argues that good judgment requires something that doesn't always come naturally to smart, experienced people: actively looking for evidence that challenges what we already believe.In our conversation, we explore what that looks like in leadership, along with the role of curiosity, vulnerability, communication, and self-compassion in becoming more effective.Listen to the latest episode of The Leadership Podcast.#leadership #leadershipdevelopment #decisionmaking #leadershippsychology #cognitivebias #executiveleadership #selfawareness #davidrobson
What if the beliefs you hold about yourself are sh What if the beliefs you hold about yourself are shaping what happens next?In our conversation with @shawnachor, we explored how beliefs influence behavior, happiness, success, and the way we experience difficult situations. That your behavior matters and can be the difference between moving forward, giving up, or stagnating.We also talk about FOMO, social connection, burnout, stress, and why success doesn't necessarily create happiness.This is a thoughtful conversation about something we rarely stop to examine - what we believe, and what those beliefs make possible.Listen to the latest episode of The Leadership Podcast.#Leadership #Leadershipdevelopment #PositivePsychology #LeadershipMindset #HappinessAndSuccess #LeadershipPodcast #ShawnAchor #TeamCulture #Mindset #WorkplaceLeadership
Leadership can make competition look different. G Leadership can make competition look different.George Couros reflects on a lesson he learned early in leadership: being better than everyone else may feel good, but it is not the measure of success.The better measure is whether the people around you become more capable because of your leadership.The goal is not to be the strongest person in the room. It is to help others grow stronger.#Leadership #LeadershipDevelopment #TeamLeadership #TheLeadershipPodcast
The way leaders talk about the future matters. Wh The way leaders talk about the future matters.When we repeatedly tell people that the challenges ahead are overwhelming, we shouldn't be surprised when they begin to approach those challenges defensively.Leaders should shape reality. It's the beliefs we create about reality that can influence how people respond to it.What we believe is coming can change what we do when we get there.Hear @shawnachor explain how beliefs shape behavior, expectations, and outcomes on the latest episode of The Leadership Podcast.#Leadership #LeadershipDevelopment #LeadershipMindset #PositivePsychology #ShawnAchor #TheLeadershipPodcast #Mindset #Beliefs #PositiveLeadership #LeadershipPsychology
Leaders often absorb the blame when things stall. Leaders often absorb the blame when things stall.David Craig learned the hard way that grinding harder inside a broken system doesn't fix anything. Sometimes the people are working exactly as hard as they should, and the structure around them is what's failing.That single reframe is what led him to walk away and rebuild Refinitiv from the outside in.New episode with David Craig is live now. https://bit.ly/TLP-525?utm_campaign=coschedule&utm_source=instagram&utm_medium=westudyleaders#leadership #davidcraig #organizationalculture #leadershippodcast #executiveleadership #businesstransformation #systemsthinking #leadershipmindset
Complexity doesn't announce itself. There's no sig Complexity doesn't announce itself.There's no sign on the wall.David Craig ran Refinitiv through some of the toughest years in financial services, and he says the first warning sign isn't in the numbers.It's in the answers. Ask three people what the company does. If you get three different answers, you've found the problem.David walks through what he actually looks for when walking into a struggling organization.Full episode is live now https://bit.ly/TLP-YT-525?utm_campaign=coschedule&utm_source=instagram&utm_medium=westudyleaders#leadership #davidcraig #organizationalculture #businesstransformation #leadershippodcast #executivecoaching #companyculture #leadershipdevelopment
When Hurricane Helene destroyed David Gray's facil When Hurricane Helene destroyed David Gray's facilities, he didn't panic.He built a playbook.Step one: Know if your people are safe and what they need. Step two: Assess your operations for damage or compromise. Step three: Communicate with customers about impact and timeline. Step four: Keep everyone informed of progress, even if you don't have all the answers yet.David learned that people don't need you to be perfect. They need you to be clear and consistent.Listen to the full episode for his complete crisis leadership framework. https://bit.ly/TLP-YT-520?utm_campaign=coschedule&utm_source=instagram&utm_medium=westudyleaders#crisisleadership #leadership #leadershiplessons #teamculture #management #podcast #davidgray #theleadershippodcast
Patrick Emmons wasn't a great student. He'll tell Patrick Emmons wasn't a great student.He'll tell you that himself.But he's built and sold three companies over 25 years.His point: the hero story isn't the requirement people think it is.Hear Patrick's full story on episode 524. https://bit.ly/TLP-524?utm_campaign=coschedule&utm_source=instagram&utm_medium=westudyleaders#leadership #entrepreneurship #growthmindset #careeradvice
David Gray calls it empathetic accountability. And David Gray calls it empathetic accountability.And it's the thing most leaders get wrong.You can hold people responsible. But only if you've connected with them first.Skip the connection? Accountability feels like harassment.David has spent 34 years learning this: exhausted people need to know they're valued before they'll respond to expectations.That doesn't mean lowering standards. It means raising empathy.Hear David's full philosophy on leadership in uncertain times. https://bit.ly/TLP-YT-520?utm_campaign=coschedule&utm_source=instagram&utm_medium=westudyleaders#empathyatwork #leadership #leadershipphilosophy #podcast #davidgray #theleadershippodcast #managementskills #leadershipdevelopment
Donnie Boivin doesn't work the room. He plants his Donnie Boivin doesn't work the room.He plants his feet and lets the room come to him.He calls it command presence, and it's a leadership skill, not a personality trait. The best leaders aren't controlling every conversation, they're guiding the room just by how they show up.Hear Donnie break down what that actually looks like in practice. Full episode is live now. https://bit.ly/TLP-YT-521?utm_campaign=coschedule&utm_source=instagram&utm_medium=westudyleaders#leadership #networking #executivepresence #personalbranding #leadershipdevelopment #salesleadership #leadershippodcast #businessgrowth
Picture a sideline full of parents yelling instruc Picture a sideline full of parents yelling instructions nobody can follow.Now picture your last team meeting.Patrick Emmons says it's the same problem.Bosses talk, but only 3% of the room actually understands what was said.He learned to fix it by coaching kids, not running companies.Watch the full episode to hear how Patrick builds a vernacular his team actually understands. https://bit.ly/TLP-YT-524?utm_campaign=coschedule&utm_source=instagram&utm_medium=westudyleaders#leadership #teamcommunication #coaching #executivecoaching #leadershipdevelopment #teambuilding #businessleadership #patrickemmons
Most leaders delay hard conversations. They hope t Most leaders delay hard conversations.They hope the problem fixes itself.Patrick Emmons says that hope is the mistake.Waiting doesn't soften the issue, it just adds interest.Listen to the full episode for Patrick's approach to difficult conversations. https://bit.ly/TLP-524?utm_campaign=coschedule&utm_source=instagram&utm_medium=westudyleaders#leadership #difficultconversations #executivecoaching #leadershipdevelopment #directcommunication #teamculture #accountability #patrickemmons
A good leader needs conviction. But conviction can A good leader needs conviction. But conviction can become a liability when it makes you stop listening.Ron Johnson learned this in very different ways at Apple and J.C. Penney.At Apple, he and Steve Jobs were willing to hit rewind after six months of work on the first Apple Store because they realized the concept was wrong. At J.C. Penney, Ron moved too quickly, relied too heavily on his own conviction, and later recognized that he needed to slow down, get more input, and bring people along.We also talk about kindness, and why Ron sees it not as softness, but as a way of creating the conditions for people to do their best work.That combination of conviction, humility, and kindness makes for an interesting way Ron approaches leadership.Link to the full episode in the comments.#Leadership #LeadershipDevelopment #LeadershipLessons #VisionaryLeadership #TheLeadershipPodcast
Kindness is often confused with being nice. Ron J Kindness is often confused with being nice.Ron Johnson makes a different distinction. Kindness can include honesty, high standards, and difficult conversations. What changes is the way those things are delivered.The goal isn't to lower the standard. It's to create an environment where people can meet it.#Leadership #KindnessInLeadership #LeadershipDevelopment #CompanyCulture #LeadershipLessons #TheLeadershipPodcast
Chasing success can quietly become the problem, no Chasing success can quietly become the problem, not the solution.Tom Rath argues usefulness matters more than achievement, and the shift changes how you spend every hour of your day.It's a simple reframe with a big payoff: less hamster wheel, more contribution.Listen to Tom Rath's full conversation on the show. https://bit.ly/TLP-523?utm_campaign=coschedule&utm_source=instagram&utm_medium=westudyleaders#tomrath #leadershippodcast #purposeoverperformance #leadershipmindset #executivecoaching #findingpurpose #workplaceculture #meaningfulwork
One question. Ask it every day. Tom Rath says the One question. Ask it every day.Tom Rath says the best leaders track one thing: what conversation did I start today that helped someone grow?It sounds small but it builds a career of impact.And Tom's reminder hits hard. You don't always get tomorrow.Listen to the full episode with Tom Rath now. https://bit.ly/TLP-YT-523?utm_campaign=coschedule&utm_source=instagram&utm_medium=westudyleaders#tomrath #leadershippodcast #leadershipmindset #dailyhabits #peopledevelopment #executivecoaching #purposeatwork #leadershipdevelopment
Strong conviction can help a leader make bold deci Strong conviction can help a leader make bold decisions. But conviction can also make it harder to recognize when an idea needs to change.Ron Johnson reflects on his experience at J.C. Penney and acknowledges that he held too tightly to his original vision.Leadership isn't about being right every time. It also requires the humility to recognize when you were wrong and learn from it.#Leadership #LeadershipDevelopment #LeadershipLessons #LeadershipMindset #DecisionMaking #HumilityInLeadership #TheLeadershipPodcast
It's easy to chase the next title. Harder to ask w It's easy to chase the next title. Harder to ask what you're actually building once you get there.Kim's closing message reframes leadership away from status — and toward legacy and impact.Dive into the full conversation now. https://bit.ly/TLP-522?utm_campaign=coschedule&utm_source=instagram&utm_medium=westudyleaders#boldleadership #kimsvoboda #leadershiplegacy #intentionalleadership #executivecoaching #leadershipmindset #leadershippodcast #whatmatters
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