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July 25, 2018

TLP108: Look Up From Your Toes

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In this episode, Jim and Jan take it full circle and start with their takeaways on responsibility from a recent episode with Patagonia’s Chief Storyteller & Director of Philosophy, Vincent Stanley. Then, they both share stories of early in their career where they could have benefitted from a little more forethought, and follow up with some great news about the podcast and friends surrounding it.

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Key Takeaways

[2:24] Jim and Jan discuss their admiration of both Patagonia as a company, and Chief Storyteller as a leader. The episode demonstrated how respect and responsibility merge when a leader steps up to take the time, slow down, and do things right. Jim’s takeaway from the episode was the manner in which Vincent’s reasoned and rational approach lends Patagonia to implement and change hearts and minds. Vincent’s book, The Responsible Company, provides a guide for those at any level of business to operate more responsibly, thoughtfully and self-aware.

[8:35] Patagonia puts people in line with the cause, whereas many passionate people tend to put the cause in front of the people. They maintain their responsibility to the cause and the outcome while still serving the traditional stakeholders, customers and vendors.

[12:22] Patagonia is trying to plan ahead for the next 40 years, while many businesses are planning for the next quarter. The tendency for short sightedness may lead to missed opportunities.

[14:04] Jim and Jan share their personal “bonehead” moments. Jim’s starts with a job interview in Detroit that leads him accidentally on a plane headed to White Plains, New York. Jan’s is a dinner party at the Colonel’s house where he accidentally missed the mark on the formal part of semi-formal.

Show Mentions:

  • Episode 107: On Responsibility: Patagonia’s Chief Storyteller & Director of Philosophy
  • JP Sears
  • Preston Pysh
  • Team VTAC Show with Sergeant Major (RET) Kyle Lamb!
Quotable Quotes

  • “Too many times people are so passionate about a cause that they are over-passionate, it makes it seem like an insurmountable goal.”
  • “What is your impact on other people?”
  • “ A short sighted mentality can blind you from opportunities.”
  • “A leader’s job is to have a long horizon, and look out for a bright future ahead.”

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Philosophy for Life and Other Dangerous Situations: Ancient Philosophy for Modern Problems

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The Fine Art of Small Talk: How To Start a Conversation, Keep It Going, Build Networking Skills — and Leave a Positive Impression!

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Grandstanding: The Use and Abuse of Moral Talk

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THE COMPASS SOLUTION – A GUIDE TO WINNING YOUR CAREER

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The Second Mountain: The Quest for a Moral Life

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Filed Under: Podcast Tagged With: assumptions, coaching, culture, Curiosity, humor, Jim & Jan, leadership, Patagonia, philosophy, practitioner, stories

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Comments

  1. Joshua Spodek

    July 28, 2018 at 4:51 am

    Hi Jim and Jan,

    Imagine my happy surprise when listening to two leaders talking about leaders living by their values to hear my name and my not polluting as an example. Glad my actions made a difference in your lives. Your sharing that I made you think made me reflect. I hope you don’t mind my sharing.

    When I thought of not flying for a year, I thought of family and work — how could I live how I wanted while changing? Then I thought again of family — my nieces and nephews. Aren’t they the reason to clean the air? And for work — if I can’t live by my values, how can I lead others to?

    Yes, it was hard, but worth it. I’m more able than I thought — to create adventure, explore culture, and discover cuisine — without leaving the U.S.A., which I’m making cleaner! Why was I scared to live by my values?

    Now I think of it as saving hard-earned money, meeting my neighbors, spending *more* time with family, and loving my country!

    I love your work, especially reflecting on Vincent Stanley and his work. Thank you!

    Josh

    Reply
    • Jim Vaselopulos

      July 28, 2018 at 11:17 am

      Thanks Josh! Wonderful collaborating with great people. Keep up the great work!

      Reply

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